From ggt667 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 01:20:22 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Fri Nov 30 17:44:56 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OT] Problem trying to use mount_afp w/ FileMaker Server In-Reply-To: <49BCB6B7-4F74-4B66-BA31-A8677D338A5D@patin.com> References: <85088388-C05A-4271-93C9-F758F1C5405D@patin.com> <1812CB85-ADDA-45FE-B256-C69BB26F621E@patin.com> <004401c83396$2ad481a0$807d84e0$@org> <7E6880CB-4235-4211-A895-40D52C8314A2@patin.com> <49BCB6B7-4F74-4B66-BA31-A8677D338A5D@patin.com> Message-ID: AFP still sends broadcast and that is OK for a workstation, but it's crazy on a server. ggt On Dec 1, 2007 12:04 AM, Bob Patin wrote: > Good to know that I wasn't going crazy; I was pretty certain that I'd > read something about AFP on Apple's site myself. :) > > BP > > > > On Nov 30, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Dale Bengston wrote: > > > I can find no reference to AFP obsolescence on Apple's site. Rather, > > I find many references to continued support and enhancements to AFP > > speed, etc. Here's one on the Leopard OS X Server page: > > > > http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/filesharing.html > > > > AppleTalk died many years ago. Perhaps you have mixed up the two. > > > > Dale > > > > On Nov 30, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > > > >> On the contrary they do. > >> > >> On Nov 30, 2007 11:28 PM, Bob Patin wrote: > >>> Tell that to Apple. They don't seem to agree... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Nov 30, 2007, at 4:26 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > >>> > >>>> AFP is obsolete > >>>> > >>>> On Nov 30, 2007 11:21 PM, Bob Patin wrote: > >>>>> I think I'll avoid it... > >>>>> > >>>>> :) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob Patin > >>>>> Longterm Solutions > >>>>> bob@longtermsolutions.com > >>>>> 615-333-6858 > >>>>> http://www.longtermsolutions.com > >>>>> Member of FileMaker Business Alliance and FileMaker TechNet > >>>>> > >>>>> CONTACT US VIA INSTANT MESSAGING: > >>>>> AIM or iChat: longterm1954 > >>>>> Yahoo: longterm_solutions > >>>>> MSN: tech@longtermsolutions.com > >>>>> ICQ: 159333060 > >>>>> > >>>>> -------------------------- > >>>>> Contact us for FileMaker hosting for all versions of FileMaker > >>>>> PHP ? CDML ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? > >>>>> Consulting > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Nov 30, 2007, at 3:15 PM, Andrew Denman wrote: > >>>>> Samba is basically Windows file and printer sharing for non- > >>>>> Windows > >>>>> computers (http://us3.samba.org/samba/what_is_samba.html), which > >>>>> is > >>>>> probably > >>>>> why your tech guy ran screaming from it. I personally don't think > >>>>> it's a > >>>>> horrible thing, but it may not fit your security setup so > >>>>> 'YMMV'. As > >>>>> Gjermund mentioned and as far as I know, it only has to be enabled > >>>>> on the > >>>>> system you are copying TO so you can access the share. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> FX.php_List mailing list > >>>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > >>>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> FX.php_List mailing list > >>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > >>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> FX.php_List mailing list > >>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > >>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FX.php_List mailing list > >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > FX.php_List mailing list > > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > From ggt667 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 01:23:01 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Fri Nov 30 17:47:34 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation In-Reply-To: <5882911.66471196464235037.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> References: <5882911.66471196464235037.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: FileMaker 9.0 is a disaster so far, one of the guys at work started using it, and now a solution that used to work 100%, quit on its own in normal places of action( in particular Web Viewer ) and it's giving bad quality of sleep, I will at least wait until 9.0v3 ggt On Dec 1, 2007 12:10 AM, Troy Meyers wrote: > Sorry to post here, but I've been combing various forums for any mention of problems with FileMaker Pro 9.02 activating the wrong window when returning from dialog boxes (or other apps) under Leopard. I've reported many instances to FMI using their feedback form, but I'm surprised to not find any mention of it anywhere. Is it just me? Can someone suggest a good forum to start a thread on this? > > -Troy > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > From bob at patin.com Sat Dec 1 09:08:02 2007 From: bob at patin.com (Bob Patin) Date: Sat Dec 1 01:32:37 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation In-Reply-To: References: <5882911.66471196464235037.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: I'm not seeing that here at all; I have FMS 9v2 on a server, and it's been totally stable with not a single problem of any kind. I know others though, who haven't been so lucky, but they may be using PCs. On my Macs I've had no trouble with FMA 9 either... I wonder if this is a PC/Mac thing? Bob Patin Longterm Solutions bob@longtermsolutions.com 615-333-6858 http://www.longtermsolutions.com Member of FileMaker Business Alliance and FileMaker TechNet CONTACT US VIA INSTANT MESSAGING: AIM or iChat: longterm1954 Yahoo: longterm_solutions MSN: tech@longtermsolutions.com ICQ: 159333060 -------------------------- Contact us for FileMaker hosting for all versions of FileMaker PHP ? CDML ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting On Dec 1, 2007, at 2:23 AM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > FileMaker 9.0 is a disaster so far, one of the guys at work started > using it, and now a solution that used to work 100%, > quit on its own in normal places of action( in particular Web Viewer ) > and it's giving bad quality of sleep, > I will at least wait until 9.0v3 > > ggt > > On Dec 1, 2007 12:10 AM, Troy Meyers wrote: >> Sorry to post here, but I've been combing various forums for any >> mention of problems with FileMaker Pro 9.02 activating the wrong >> window when returning from dialog boxes (or other apps) under >> Leopard. I've reported many instances to FMI using their feedback >> form, but I'm surprised to not find any mention of it anywhere. Is >> it just me? Can someone suggest a good forum to start a thread on >> this? >> >> -Troy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From tcmeyers at troymeyers.com Sat Dec 1 09:35:19 2007 From: tcmeyers at troymeyers.com (Troy Meyers) Date: Sat Dec 1 01:59:52 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation Message-ID: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Bob, We've got FileMaker Pro 9.0v2 on 5 Mac workstations, one a G3 and the others G4, but all running Tiger 10.4.11, and there is no problem that I know of. I also had FileMaker Pro _Advanced_ 9.0v2 on a Mac G5 desktop and an Mac Intel laptop, and again, no problem, but those are the two machines that we decided to try Leopard 10.5.1 on. It was after installing Leopard that the inappropriate window activation started occurring, and there have been a couple of unexpectedly-quit instances. Both the G5 and Mac Intel under Leopard have similar problems whether it's FMP9.0v2 or FMPA9.0v2, it's not just Advanced. The problem is that if you have several FileMaker windows open, and you get a dialog box, possibly any kind, such as the Replace Field Contents or a custom dialog box, when you dismiss the dialog, the window that you were originally working in is not reactivated as expected, instead, one of the other open FileMaker windows is activated -- it gets the drop shadow and darker name bar -- but it is not necessarily brought to the front. You end up in a window that you don't expect, and if you don't notice that, then confusion reigns because the wrong scripts are displayed, creating new records with command-N makes the record in the wrong database, etc. The wrong window is also activated if you use command-tab to go to a different app, and then command-tab to get back to FileMaker. A different window is activated than when you left FileMaker. Another odd thing, not necessarily related to the wrong-window problem, is that sometimes typing command-F for Find doesn't go to Find Mode. The "View" menu highlights, but the window stays in Browse mode. Selecting "Find" under the "View" menu does work, though. -Troy > I'm not seeing that here at all; I have FMS 9v2 on a server, and it's > been totally stable with not a single problem of any kind. I know > others though, who haven't been so lucky, but they may be using PCs. > > On my Macs I've had no trouble with FMA 9 either... I wonder if this > is a PC/Mac thing? > > Bob Patin From jschwartz at exit445.com Sat Dec 1 10:00:12 2007 From: jschwartz at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Sat Dec 1 02:27:40 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] PHP Server Error In-Reply-To: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> References: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: Hi Folks, I finally turned on the option in fx.php to receive emails if/when errors occur in fx. It seems that I only get a single message that isn't very informative: The following error just occured: Message: FX: ExecuteQuery XML error: no element found at line 1 How can I expand this? I know this one occured during development. Thanks Jonathan -- Jonathan Schwartz Exit 445 Group jonathan@exit445.com http://www.exit445.com 415-381-1852 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20071201/7576e1bc/attachment.html From ggt667 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 10:59:30 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Sat Dec 1 03:24:12 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation In-Reply-To: References: <5882911.66471196464235037.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: Mac/Windows mixed environment in this case. But I have seen single files opened on FileMaker 9.0v2 close itself with no warning too, it's very annoying! ggt On Dec 1, 2007 5:08 PM, Bob Patin wrote: > I'm not seeing that here at all; I have FMS 9v2 on a server, and it's > been totally stable with not a single problem of any kind. I know > others though, who haven't been so lucky, but they may be using PCs. > > On my Macs I've had no trouble with FMA 9 either... I wonder if this > is a PC/Mac thing? > > Bob Patin > Longterm Solutions > bob@longtermsolutions.com > 615-333-6858 > http://www.longtermsolutions.com > Member of FileMaker Business Alliance and FileMaker TechNet > > CONTACT US VIA INSTANT MESSAGING: > AIM or iChat: longterm1954 > Yahoo: longterm_solutions > MSN: tech@longtermsolutions.com > ICQ: 159333060 > > -------------------------- > Contact us for FileMaker hosting for all versions of FileMaker > PHP ? CDML ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? > Consulting > > > On Dec 1, 2007, at 2:23 AM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > > > FileMaker 9.0 is a disaster so far, one of the guys at work started > > using it, and now a solution that used to work 100%, > > quit on its own in normal places of action( in particular Web Viewer ) > > and it's giving bad quality of sleep, > > I will at least wait until 9.0v3 > > > > ggt > > > > On Dec 1, 2007 12:10 AM, Troy Meyers wrote: > >> Sorry to post here, but I've been combing various forums for any > >> mention of problems with FileMaker Pro 9.02 activating the wrong > >> window when returning from dialog boxes (or other apps) under > >> Leopard. I've reported many instances to FMI using their feedback > >> form, but I'm surprised to not find any mention of it anywhere. Is > >> it just me? Can someone suggest a good forum to start a thread on > >> this? > >> > >> -Troy > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FX.php_List mailing list > >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > FX.php_List mailing list > > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > From ggt667 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 11:02:01 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Sat Dec 1 03:26:36 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] PHP Server Error In-Reply-To: References: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: Odd errors are usually due to any least square of not being able to connect to the server Username/Password Wrong IP address/port for server curl on/off depending on release/system ggt On Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > I finally turned on the option in fx.php to receive emails if/when errors > occur in fx. > > > It seems that I only get a single message that isn't very informative: > > > The following error just occured: > > > Message: FX: ExecuteQuery XML error: no element found at line 1 > > > How can I expand this? I know this one occured during development. > > > Thanks > > > Jonathan -- > > > Jonathan Schwartz > Exit 445 Group > jonathan@exit445.com > http://www.exit445.com > 415-381-1852 > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > From jschwartz at exit445.com Sat Dec 1 11:08:39 2007 From: jschwartz at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Sat Dec 1 03:37:45 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] PHP Server Error In-Reply-To: References: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: Thank ggt. I guess I can interpret that one as "no connection to server". I guess what I wanted to know is how to get the existing error reporting mechanism to report OTHER errors. All i get is the one mentioned below. Or...am I thinking about pure PHP errors which occur outside of fx? How can generate an error inside of fx that would be reported, as a test? Thx. Jonahan At 7:02 PM +0100 12/1/07, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: >Odd errors are usually due to any least square of not being able to >connect to the server > >Username/Password >Wrong IP address/port for server >curl on/off depending on release/system > >ggt > >On Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >> >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> >> I finally turned on the option in fx.php to receive emails if/when errors >> occur in fx. >> >> >> It seems that I only get a single message that isn't very informative: >> >> >> The following error just occured: >> >> >> Message: FX: ExecuteQuery XML error: no element found at line 1 >> >> >> How can I expand this? I know this one occured during development. >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Jonathan -- >> >> >> Jonathan Schwartz >> Exit 445 Group >> jonathan@exit445.com >> http://www.exit445.com >> 415-381-1852 >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >> >_______________________________________________ >FX.php_List mailing list >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -- Jonathan Schwartz Exit 445 Group jonathan@exit445.com http://www.exit445.com 415-381-1852 From someone at gagayaya.com Sat Dec 1 11:17:25 2007 From: someone at gagayaya.com (Someone) Date: Sat Dec 1 03:42:00 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> Message-ID: <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> Hi, Just curious what people think about IWP? Is it faster to setup than CWP? Are there a lot of bugs? Do you prefer CWP? Looking into setting up a REP web application for my client. Thanks Frank From dbengston at preservationstudio.com Sat Dec 1 11:31:36 2007 From: dbengston at preservationstudio.com (Dale Bengston) Date: Sat Dec 1 03:56:15 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> Message-ID: <88CD9A56-F7F7-4584-99A7-9170AD45C375@preservationstudio.com> Hi Frank, Warning: This is my opinion based on my experience and my clients' requirements. Personally, I wouldn't touch IWP with a 39-1/2 foot pole. Everyone's requirements are different. Your mileage may vary. It boils down to the trade-off between rapid rollout (IWP) and getting everything your client wants out of a web-enabled solution (CWP). Dale On Dec 1, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Someone wrote: > Hi, > Just curious what people think about IWP? > Is it faster to setup than CWP? > Are there a lot of bugs? > Do you prefer CWP? > > Looking into setting up a REP web application for my client. > > Thanks > > Frank > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From jschwartz at exit445.com Sat Dec 1 11:51:40 2007 From: jschwartz at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Sat Dec 1 04:18:08 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> Message-ID: Frank, You might be talking to the wrong group if you want positive feedback on IWP. I would guess that most of the members of this group are refugees of CWP, having embraced fx.php as the tool of choice to implement high quality bug-free CWP. Hope that helps, Jonathan At 1:17 PM -0500 12/1/07, Someone wrote: >Hi, >Just curious what people think about IWP? >Is it faster to setup than CWP? >Are there a lot of bugs? >Do you prefer CWP? > >Looking into setting up a REP web application for my client. > >Thanks > >Frank >_______________________________________________ >FX.php_List mailing list >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -- Jonathan Schwartz Exit 445 Group jonathan@exit445.com http://www.exit445.com 415-381-1852 From ggt667 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 11:55:07 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Sat Dec 1 04:19:41 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] PHP Server Error In-Reply-To: References: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: Aha, those errors are not usually seen by a regular user of FX.php as long as we made FX.php work correctly. ggt On Dec 1, 2007 7:08 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > Thank ggt. > > I guess I can interpret that one as "no connection to server". > > I guess what I wanted to know is how to get the existing error > reporting mechanism to report OTHER errors. All i get is the one > mentioned below. Or...am I thinking about pure PHP errors which > occur outside of fx? > > How can generate an error inside of fx that would be reported, as a test? > > Thx. > > Jonahan > > > At 7:02 PM +0100 12/1/07, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > >Odd errors are usually due to any least square of not being able to > >connect to the server > > > >Username/Password > >Wrong IP address/port for server > >curl on/off depending on release/system > > > >ggt > > > >On Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >> > >> I finally turned on the option in fx.php to receive emails if/when errors > >> occur in fx. > >> > >> > >> It seems that I only get a single message that isn't very informative: > >> > >> > >> The following error just occured: > >> > >> > >> Message: FX: ExecuteQuery XML error: no element found at line 1 > >> > >> > >> How can I expand this? I know this one occured during development. > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> > >> Jonathan -- > >> > >> > >> Jonathan Schwartz > >> Exit 445 Group > >> jonathan@exit445.com > >> http://www.exit445.com > >> 415-381-1852 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FX.php_List mailing list > >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > >> > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >FX.php_List mailing list > >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > -- > > Jonathan Schwartz > Exit 445 Group > jonathan@exit445.com > http://www.exit445.com > 415-381-1852 > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > From ggt667 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 11:56:28 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Sat Dec 1 04:21:02 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> Message-ID: My mainproblem with IWP is to make it coexist with CWP, something about the sessions is weird. ggt On Dec 1, 2007 7:51 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > Frank, > > You might be talking to the wrong group if you want positive feedback on IWP. > > I would guess that most of the members of this group are refugees of > CWP, having embraced fx.php as the tool of choice to implement high > quality bug-free CWP. > > Hope that helps, > > Jonathan > > > At 1:17 PM -0500 12/1/07, Someone wrote: > >Hi, > >Just curious what people think about IWP? > >Is it faster to setup than CWP? > >Are there a lot of bugs? > >Do you prefer CWP? > > > >Looking into setting up a REP web application for my client. > > > >Thanks > > > >Frank > >_______________________________________________ > >FX.php_List mailing list > >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > -- > Jonathan Schwartz > Exit 445 Group > jonathan@exit445.com > http://www.exit445.com > 415-381-1852 > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > From erik at cayre.dk Sat Dec 1 12:08:39 2007 From: erik at cayre.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_Andreas_Cayr=E9?=) Date: Sat Dec 1 04:33:15 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: <88CD9A56-F7F7-4584-99A7-9170AD45C375@preservationstudio.com> References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> <88CD9A56-F7F7-4584-99A7-9170AD45C375@preservationstudio.com> Message-ID: Den 01/12/2007 kl. 19.31 skrev Dale Bengston: > Hi Frank, > > Warning: This is my opinion based on my experience and my clients' > requirements. Same warning applies re. my comments;-) > > Personally, I wouldn't touch IWP with a 39-1/2 foot pole. I've spent many hours since july 2007, implementing an IWP solution with FM9. Most of my time has been spent learning the limitations of IWP vs. FMP ntive UI, and finding acceptable work-arounds for bugs, missing functionality etc. If I had to do it over it would *not* be with IWP. The promise of IWP is to easily and quickly make an FMP solution accessible via a webbrowser. This is certainly possible, but it has limited use. You must be willing to accept the (many) limitations and odd 'features' of IWP, and not many users/customers will do this (in the long run). Even when you think you 'just' need a simple UI without bells & whistles (as I did in july), you will probably stumble on the limitations. In my case: -using bitmapped graphics in container fields does not always 'just work' as in FMP -precise layout design is difficult: different browser produce slightly different results... (even the officially supported ones) -entry validation is a pain in the BEEP because you can't do popup dialog boxes... > Everyone's requirements are different. Your mileage may vary. It > boils down to the trade-off between rapid rollout (IWP) and getting > everything your client wants out of a web-enabled solution (CWP). Agreed. IWP is fine when the application is simple/small and requirements for UI are very low. CWP gives you anything you've ever seen in a webbrowser, at the cost of more initial programming time (in another language...) > > Dale > > On Dec 1, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Someone wrote: > >> Hi, >> Just curious what people think about IWP? >> Is it faster to setup than CWP? >> Are there a lot of bugs? >> Do you prefer CWP? >> >> Looking into setting up a REP web application for my client. >> >> Thanks >> >> Frank --- Erik Andreas Cayr? Spangsbjerg M?llevej 169 DK-6705 Esbjerg ? Home Tel: +45 75150512 Mobile: +45 40161183 ?Interest can produce learning on a scale compared to fear as a nuclear explosion to a firecracker.? --Stanley Kubrick ?If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.? -- Albert Einstein ?If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?? -- John Wooden, basketball coach From jschwartz at exit445.com Sat Dec 1 12:19:26 2007 From: jschwartz at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Sat Dec 1 04:48:10 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] PHP Server Error In-Reply-To: References: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: So one could/should trap for (1) PHP errors and (2) FMP errors, but not fx.php errors? What about the errors below? For "fun", I just mad my server disappear by changing the IP address in server_data. I got the familiar error: FX: cURL could not retrieve Post data in RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad URL is the most likely reason.FX: cURL could not retrieve Post data in RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad URL is the most likely reason. Warning: Cannot use a scalar value as an array in /Library/WebServer/Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /Library/WebServer/Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 So...this is FX complaining first and then PHP native? I know that I should inhibit error reporting for production systems, but my project never really seem to reach that "perfect state". ;-) If I wanted to do so, I have to set both fx and PHP to not print errors to the screen? Jonathan Gusland Thorsen wrote: >Aha, those errors are not usually seen by a regular user of FX.php as >long as we made FX.php work correctly. > >ggt > >On Dec 1, 2007 7:08 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >> Thank ggt. >> >> I guess I can interpret that one as "no connection to server". >> >> I guess what I wanted to know is how to get the existing error >> reporting mechanism to report OTHER errors. All i get is the one >> mentioned below. Or...am I thinking about pure PHP errors which >> occur outside of fx? >> >> How can generate an error inside of fx that would be reported, as a test? >> >> Thx. >> >> Jonahan >> >> >> At 7:02 PM +0100 12/1/07, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: >> >Odd errors are usually due to any least square of not being able to >> >connect to the server >> > >> >Username/Password >> >Wrong IP address/port for server >> >curl on/off depending on release/system >> > >> >ggt >> > >> >On Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> >> >> >> >> I finally turned on the option in fx.php to receive emails >>if/when errors >> >> occur in fx. >> >> >> >> >> >> It seems that I only get a single message that isn't very informative: >> >> >> >> >> >> The following error just occured: >> >> >> >> >> >> Message: FX: ExecuteQuery XML error: no element found at line 1 >> >> >> >> >> >> How can I expand this? I know this one occured during development. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> Jonathan -- >> >> >> >> >> >> Jonathan Schwartz >> >> Exit 445 Group >> >> jonathan@exit445.com >> >> http://www.exit445.com >> >> 415-381-1852 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> FX.php_List mailing list >> >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >FX.php_List mailing list >> >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >> >> -- >> >> Jonathan Schwartz >> Exit 445 Group >> jonathan@exit445.com >> http://www.exit445.com >> 415-381-1852 >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >_______________________________________________ >FX.php_List mailing list >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -- Jonathan Schwartz Exit 445 Group jonathan@exit445.com http://www.exit445.com 415-381-1852 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20071201/f0bab1f7/attachment.html From jschwartz at exit445.com Sat Dec 1 12:37:45 2007 From: jschwartz at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Sat Dec 1 05:03:08 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> <88CD9A56-F7F7-4584-99A7-9170AD45C375@preservationstudio.com> Message-ID: Dale and Erik, We're on the same page. Adding to that....The promise of "instant" and painless IWP is a very attractive to the newcomer. The PROBLEM with that is both beginner IWP developers and their users don't really know what "simple/and small" means until they have already invested the effort into IW and realized its limitations. And how many web applications have ever started small and simple and STAYED small and simple? On that note....and don't get me started...I still can't figure out how the new breed of FMP API developers are going to make out when they need to step outside the comfort of automatically generated scripts to add PHP native code. ;-) Jonathan At 8:08 PM +0100 12/1/07, Erik Andreas Cayr? wrote: > >IWP is fine when the application is simple/small >and requirements for UI are very low. >CWP gives you anything you've ever seen in a >webbrowser, at the cost of more initial >programming time (in another language...) -- Jonathan Schwartz Exit 445 Group jonathan@exit445.com http://www.exit445.com 415-381-1852 From glenn at thesingletons.id.au Sat Dec 1 12:44:41 2007 From: glenn at thesingletons.id.au (Glenn Singleton) Date: Sat Dec 1 05:09:23 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> <88CD9A56-F7F7-4584-99A7-9170AD45C375@preservationstudio.com> Message-ID: Hi Frank I have been doing IWP & CWP since FMS7A came out. I have some functioning simple IWP apps (e.g. stationery ordering) that work OK. I also spent nearly 2 years developing an application that was for FMS8A IWP and we were about to do a pre-release and Filemaker released Filemaker 9 Server that comes with CWP and you only have to buy Filemaker Server 9 Advanced if you want IWP or xdbc. We aborted the release thinking no-one would want to pay the extra money for Server Advanced just for (in this case) IWP, we are about to release our CWP version. IWP development was fast for layout, but I agree with all the things others have said as well as :- 1. The biggest problem is different results for different browsers (or even same browser on different platforms). 2. Forget about multiple .fp7 files if you have local web users (intranet) and remote web users (internet), never found a solution to link them. 3. It's very,very slow compared to CWP 4. There are so many things that you have to find "other" solutions for, in our case we were going with PHP (for email, PDF reports) as well as IWP If it is a small straight forward Filemaker (functions) only, you can try IWP but all long term solutions tend to go CWP. Just my 2c Glenn Singleton From jschwartz at exit445.com Sat Dec 1 13:30:47 2007 From: jschwartz at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Sat Dec 1 05:58:10 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> <88CD9A56-F7F7-4584-99A7-9170AD45C375@preservationstudio.com> Message-ID: But let it be said that the learning curve for Custom Web Publishing, at least for me, was a real bear. With no previous programming experience or web serving base knowledge, it took me the better part of 2 years to feel that I had finally "arrived". Yet, there is still much to learn and not enough hours in the day. J At 6:44 AM +1100 12/2/07, Glenn Singleton wrote: >Hi Frank > >I have been doing IWP & CWP since FMS7A came out. I have some >functioning simple IWP apps (e.g. stationery ordering) that work OK. > >I also spent nearly 2 years developing an application that was for >FMS8A IWP and we were about to do a pre-release and Filemaker >released Filemaker 9 Server that comes with CWP and you only have to >buy Filemaker Server 9 Advanced if you want IWP or xdbc. We aborted >the release thinking no-one would want to pay the extra money for >Server Advanced just for (in this case) IWP, we are about to release >our CWP version. > >IWP development was fast for layout, but I agree with all the things >others have said as well as :- >1. The biggest problem is different results for different browsers >(or even same browser on different platforms). >2. Forget about multiple .fp7 files if you have local web users >(intranet) and remote web users (internet), never found a solution >to link them. >3. It's very,very slow compared to CWP >4. There are so many things that you have to find "other" solutions >for, in our case we were going with PHP (for email, PDF reports) as >well as IWP > >If it is a small straight forward Filemaker (functions) only, you >can try IWP but all long term solutions tend to go CWP. > >Just my 2c > >Glenn Singleton >_______________________________________________ >FX.php_List mailing list >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -- Jonathan Schwartz Exit 445 Group jonathan@exit445.com http://www.exit445.com 415-381-1852 From jsfmp at earthlink.net Sat Dec 1 13:36:24 2007 From: jsfmp at earthlink.net (Joel Shapiro) Date: Sat Dec 1 06:00:57 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> Message-ID: <58E11410-AEEF-4691-AAC4-E68CEA038E39@earthlink.net> Hi Frank I agree w/ the others. My sense is that IWP is best suited for a small/limited set of know users -- for whom you may have some say over their browser/OS as well as an understanding/acceptance from the users that the 'site' has limitations -- kind of like a FileMaker "thin client" that will give a set of known users access to the datbase without them having to have a license for FMP -- and possibly better performance for over a WAN. I don't think IWP is suitable for a public site. -Joel On Dec 1, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Someone wrote: > Hi, > Just curious what people think about IWP? > Is it faster to setup than CWP? > Are there a lot of bugs? > Do you prefer CWP? > > Looking into setting up a REP web application for my client. > > Thanks > > Frank > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From dbengston at preservationstudio.com Sat Dec 1 14:02:52 2007 From: dbengston at preservationstudio.com (Dale Bengston) Date: Sat Dec 1 06:27:30 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] PHP Server Error In-Reply-To: References: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: Correct. The first error is from FX. The two WARNING errors are from PHP, because the PHP code is expecting a data array to walk, and it didn't get one due to the failed connection. Personally, I make sure all errors are gone before I roll out a solution. I don't think it's right to just shut off error reporting and look the other way. Maybe I'm just obsessed or something! Dale On Dec 1, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > So one could/should trap for (1) PHP errors and (2) FMP errors, but > not fx.php errors? What about the errors below? > > For "fun", I just mad my server disappear by changing the IP address > in server_data. I got the familiar error: > > FX: cURL could not retrieve Post data in RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad > URL is the most likely reason.FX: cURL could not retrieve Post data > in RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad URL is the most likely reason. > > Warning: Cannot use a scalar value as an array in /Library/WebServer/ > Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 > > Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /Library/ > WebServer/Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 > > > So...this is FX complaining first and then PHP native? > > I know that I should inhibit error reporting for production systems, > but my project never really seem to reach that "perfect state". ;-) > > If I wanted to do so, I have to set both fx and PHP to not print > errors to the screen? > > Jonathan > > > Gusland Thorsen wrote: >> Aha, those errors are not usually seen by a regular user of FX.php as >> long as we made FX.php work correctly. >> >> ggt >> >> On Dec 1, 2007 7:08 PM, Jonathan Schwartz >> wrote: >> > Thank ggt. >> > >> > I guess I can interpret that one as "no connection to server". >> > >> > I guess what I wanted to know is how to get the existing error >> > reporting mechanism to report OTHER errors. All i get is the one >> > mentioned below. Or...am I thinking about pure PHP errors which >> > occur outside of fx? >> > >> > How can generate an error inside of fx that would be reported, as >> a test? >> > >> > Thx. >> > >> > Jonahan >> > >> > >> > At 7:02 PM +0100 12/1/07, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: >> > >Odd errors are usually due to any least square of not being able >> to >> > >connect to the server >> > > >> > >Username/Password >> > >Wrong IP address/port for server >> > >curl on/off depending on release/system >> > > >> > >ggt >> > > >> > >On Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM, Jonathan Schwartz >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Hi Folks, >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> I finally turned on the option in fx.php to receive emails if/ >> when errors >> > >> occur in fx. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> It seems that I only get a single message that isn't very >> informative: >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> The following error just occured: >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Message: FX: ExecuteQuery XML error: no element found at line 1 >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> How can I expand this? I know this one occured during >> development. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Thanks >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Jonathan -- >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Jonathan Schwartz >> > >> Exit 445 Group >> > >> jonathan@exit445.com >> > >> http://www.exit445.com >> > >> 415-381-1852 >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> FX.php_List mailing list >> > >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> > >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> > >> >> > >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >FX.php_List mailing list >> > >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> > >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Jonathan Schwartz >> > Exit 445 Group >> > jonathan@exit445.com >> > http://www.exit445.com >> > 415-381-1852 >> > _______________________________________________ >> > FX.php_List mailing list >> > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > -- > Jonathan Schwartz > Exit 445 Group > jonathan@exit445.com > http://www.exit445.com > 415-381-1852 > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20071201/019ede9e/attachment-0001.html From jschwartz at exit445.com Sat Dec 1 14:20:28 2007 From: jschwartz at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Sat Dec 1 06:48:11 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] PHP Server Error In-Reply-To: References: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: Dale, Thanks. Perhaps I'm different...and this might tie in with one of my recent post about "whipping up a solution" for relatively short term projects...I find myself constantly adding features and code to live solutions. I need the error reporting to tell me if things work. Now, I also work with a bit of caution. I monitor a FMP log that tells if anyone is in process on the site. If the coast is clear, I will save the existing page as back up, make the edit and then test it. If it doesn't worked as planned, and if I feel that I don't have time to resolve it immediately, I will revert to the saved BAK file and have time to rethink the change. Sort of like playing on the train tracks as a kid. I don't smoke. I don't drink. Have to get my thrills somehow. ;-) Jonathan At 3:02 PM -0600 12/1/07, Dale Bengston wrote: >Correct. The first error is from FX. The two WARNING errors are from >PHP, because the PHP code is expecting a data array to walk, and it >didn't get one due to the failed connection. > >Personally, I make sure all errors are gone before I roll out a >solution. I don't think it's right to just shut off error reporting >and look the other way. Maybe I'm just obsessed or something! > >Dale > >On Dec 1, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > >> >>So one could/should trap for (1) PHP errors and (2) FMP errors, but >>not fx.php errors? What about the errors below? >> >>For "fun", I just mad my server disappear by changing the IP >>address in server_data. I got the familiar error: >> >>FX: cURL could not retrieve Post data in RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad >>URL is the most likely reason.FX: cURL could not retrieve Post data >>in RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad URL is the most likely reason. >> >>Warning: Cannot use a scalar value as an array >>in /Library/WebServer/Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 >> >>Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() >>in /Library/WebServer/Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 >> >> >>So...this is FX complaining first and then PHP native? >> >>I know that I should inhibit error reporting for production >>systems, but my project never really seem to reach that "perfect >>state". ;-) >> >>If I wanted to do so, I have to set both fx and PHP to not print >>errors to the screen? >> >>Jonathan >> >> >> Gusland Thorsen wrote: >> >>>Aha, those errors are not usually seen by a regular user of FX.php as >>>long as we made FX.php work correctly. >>> >>>ggt >>> >>>On Dec 1, 2007 7:08 PM, Jonathan Schwartz >>><jschwartz@exit445.com> wrote: >>>> Thank ggt. >>>> >>>> I guess I can interpret that one as "no connection to server". >>>> >>>> I guess what I wanted to know is how to get the existing error >>>> reporting mechanism to report OTHER errors. All i get is the one >>>> mentioned below. Or...am I thinking about pure PHP errors which >>>> occur outside of fx? >>>> >>>> How can generate an error inside of fx that would be reported, as a test? >>>> >>>> Thx. >>>> >>>> Jonahan >>>> >>>> >>>> At 7:02 PM +0100 12/1/07, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: >>>> >Odd errors are usually due to any least square of not being able to >>>> >connect to the server >>>> > >>>> >Username/Password >>>> >Wrong IP address/port for server >>>> >curl on/off depending on release/system >>>> > >>>> >ggt >>>> > >>>> >On Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM, Jonathan Schwartz >>>><jschwartz@exit445.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi Folks, >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> I finally turned on the option in fx.php to receive emails >>>>if/when errors >>>> >> occur in fx. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> It seems that I only get a single message that isn't very informative: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> The following error just occured: >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Message: FX: ExecuteQuery XML error: no element found at line 1 >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> How can I expand this? I know this one occured during development. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Thanks >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Jonathan -- >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Jonathan Schwartz >>>> >> Exit 445 Group >>>> >> jonathan@exit445.com >>>> >> http://www.exit445.com >>>> >> 415-381-1852 >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> FX.php_List mailing list >>>> >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >_______________________________________________ >>>> >FX.php_List mailing list >>>> >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Jonathan Schwartz >>>> Exit 445 Group >>>> jonathan@exit445.com >>>> http://www.exit445.com >>>> 415-381-1852 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>FX.php_List mailing list >>>FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>> >> >> >>-- >>Jonathan Schwartz >>Exit 445 Group >>jonathan@exit445.com >>http://www.exit445.com >>415-381-1852 >>_______________________________________________ >>FX.php_List mailing list >>FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> > > >_______________________________________________ >FX.php_List mailing list >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -- Jonathan Schwartz Exit 445 Group jonathan@exit445.com http://www.exit445.com 415-381-1852 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20071201/355c0476/attachment.html From ggt667 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 14:54:10 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Sat Dec 1 07:18:45 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] PHP Server Error In-Reply-To: References: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: Always make a web log table, it helps you keep track of stuff and who did what. ggt On Dec 1, 2007 10:20 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > > Dale, > > > Thanks. > > > Perhaps I'm different...and this might tie in with one of my recent post > about "whipping up a solution" for relatively short term projects...I find > myself constantly adding features and code to live solutions. I need the > error reporting to tell me if things work. > > > Now, I also work with a bit of caution. I monitor a FMP log that tells if > anyone is in process on the site. If the coast is clear, I will save the > existing page as back up, make the edit and then test it. If it doesn't > worked as planned, and if I feel that I don't have time to resolve it > immediately, I will revert to the saved BAK file and have time to rethink > the change. > > > Sort of like playing on the train tracks as a kid. I don't smoke. I don't > drink. Have to get my thrills somehow. ;-) > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > > > > At 3:02 PM -0600 12/1/07, Dale Bengston wrote: > Correct. The first error is from FX. The two WARNING errors are from PHP, > because the PHP code is expecting a data array to walk, and it didn't get > one due to the failed connection. > > > Personally, I make sure all errors are gone before I roll out a solution. I > don't think it's right to just shut off error reporting and look the other > way. Maybe I'm just obsessed or something! > > > Dale > > > On Dec 1, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > > > So one could/should trap for (1) PHP errors and (2) FMP errors, but not > fx.php errors? What about the errors below? > > > For "fun", I just mad my server disappear by changing the IP address in > server_data. I got the familiar error: > > > FX: cURL could not retrieve Post data in RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad URL is the > most likely reason.FX: cURL could not retrieve Post data in > RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad URL is the most likely reason. > > Warning: Cannot use a scalar value as an array in > /Library/WebServer/Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 > > Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in > /Library/WebServer/Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 > > > > > So...this is FX complaining first and then PHP native? > > > I know that I should inhibit error reporting for production systems, but my > project never really seem to reach that "perfect state". ;-) > > > If I wanted to do so, I have to set both fx and PHP to not print errors to > the screen? > > > Jonathan > > > > > Gusland Thorsen wrote: > > Aha, those errors are not usually seen by a regular user of FX.php as > long as we made FX.php work correctly. > > ggt > > On Dec 1, 2007 7:08 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > Thank ggt. > > > > I guess I can interpret that one as "no connection to server". > > > > I guess what I wanted to know is how to get the existing error > > reporting mechanism to report OTHER errors. All i get is the one > > mentioned below. Or...am I thinking about pure PHP errors which > > occur outside of fx? > > > > How can generate an error inside of fx that would be reported, as a test? > > > > Thx. > > > > Jonahan > > > > > > At 7:02 PM +0100 12/1/07, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > > >Odd errors are usually due to any least square of not being able to > > >connect to the server > > > > > >Username/Password > > >Wrong IP address/port for server > > >curl on/off depending on release/system > > > > > >ggt > > > > > >On Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi Folks, > > >> > > >> > > >> I finally turned on the option in fx.php to receive emails if/when > errors > > >> occur in fx. > > >> > > >> > > >> It seems that I only get a single message that isn't very > informative: > > >> > > >> > > >> The following error just occured: > > >> > > >> > > >> Message: FX: ExecuteQuery XML error: no element found at line 1 > > >> > > >> > > >> How can I expand this? I know this one occured during development. > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> > > >> Jonathan -- > > >> > > >> > > >> Jonathan Schwartz > > >> Exit 445 Group > > >> jonathan@exit445.com > > >> http://www.exit445.com > > >> 415-381-1852 > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> FX.php_List mailing list > > >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > > >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > >> > > >> > > >_______________________________________________ > > >FX.php_List mailing list > > >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > > >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > > > > -- > > > > Jonathan Schwartz > > Exit 445 Group > > jonathan@exit445.com > > http://www.exit445.com > > 415-381-1852 > > _______________________________________________ > > FX.php_List mailing list > > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > > > > -- > Jonathan Schwartz > Exit 445 Group > jonathan@exit445.com > http://www.exit445.com > 415-381-1852 > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > > -- > > > Jonathan Schwartz > Exit 445 Group > jonathan@exit445.com > http://www.exit445.com > 415-381-1852 > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > From dbengston at preservationstudio.com Sat Dec 1 15:14:31 2007 From: dbengston at preservationstudio.com (Dale Bengston) Date: Sat Dec 1 07:39:12 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] PHP Server Error In-Reply-To: References: <5356950.68231196526919592.JavaMail.seedlings@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: <08A3437E-8DDF-4BAB-B6CC-15C6DA075297@preservationstudio.com> I usually test with errors on too, and make sure they're off when I roll out. Until Leopard, I had my laptop as a testing sandbox, so I could make all my mistakes off-line. ut Leopard killed my FSA copy of FileMaker Server 8. And FileMaker Server 9 doesn't work yet on Leopard, so I have to use our main testing server. That's fine, except when I'm on an airplane or somewhere else without an Internet connection. Dale On Dec 1, 2007, at 3:20 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > Dale, > > Thanks. > > Perhaps I'm different...and this might tie in with one of my recent > post about "whipping up a solution" for relatively short term > projects...I find myself constantly adding features and code to live > solutions. I need the error reporting to tell me if things work. > > Now, I also work with a bit of caution. I monitor a FMP log that > tells if anyone is in process on the site. If the coast is clear, I > will save the existing page as back up, make the edit and then test > it. If it doesn't worked as planned, and if I feel that I don't > have time to resolve it immediately, I will revert to the saved BAK > file and have time to rethink the change. > > Sort of like playing on the train tracks as a kid. I don't smoke. I > don't drink. Have to get my thrills somehow. ;-) > > Jonathan > > > > > At 3:02 PM -0600 12/1/07, Dale Bengston wrote: >> Correct. The first error is from FX. The two WARNING errors are >> from PHP, because the PHP code is expecting a data array to walk, >> and it didn't get one due to the failed connection. >> >> Personally, I make sure all errors are gone before I roll out a >> solution. I don't think it's right to just shut off error reporting >> and look the other way. Maybe I'm just obsessed or something! >> >> Dale >> >> On Dec 1, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: >> >>> >>> So one could/should trap for (1) PHP errors and (2) FMP errors, >>> but not fx.php errors? What about the errors below? >>> >>> For "fun", I just mad my server disappear by changing the IP >>> address in server_data. I got the familiar error: >>> >>> FX: cURL could not retrieve Post data in RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad >>> URL is the most likely reason.FX: cURL could not retrieve Post >>> data in RetrieveFM7Data(). A bad URL is the most likely reason. >>> >>> Warning: Cannot use a scalar value as an array in /Library/ >>> WebServer/Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 >>> >>> Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /Library/ >>> WebServer/Documents/exit445/mvll/totals.php on line 70 >>> >>> >>> So...this is FX complaining first and then PHP native? >>> >>> I know that I should inhibit error reporting for production >>> systems, but my project never really seem to reach that "perfect >>> state". ;-) >>> >>> If I wanted to do so, I have to set both fx and PHP to not print >>> errors to the screen? >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> >>> Gusland Thorsen wrote: >>>> Aha, those errors are not usually seen by a regular user of >>>> FX.php as >>>> long as we made FX.php work correctly. >>>> >>>> ggt >>>> >>>> On Dec 1, 2007 7:08 PM, Jonathan Schwartz >>>> wrote: >>>> > Thank ggt. >>>> > >>>> > I guess I can interpret that one as "no connection to server". >>>> > >>>> > I guess what I wanted to know is how to get the existing error >>>> > reporting mechanism to report OTHER errors. All i get is the one >>>> > mentioned below. Or...am I thinking about pure PHP errors which >>>> > occur outside of fx? >>>> > >>>> > How can generate an error inside of fx that would be reported, >>>> as a test? >>>> > >>>> > Thx. >>>> > >>>> > Jonahan >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > At 7:02 PM +0100 12/1/07, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: >>>> > >Odd errors are usually due to any least square of not being >>>> able to >>>> > >connect to the server >>>> > > >>>> > >Username/Password >>>> > >Wrong IP address/port for server >>>> > >curl on/off depending on release/system >>>> > > >>>> > >ggt >>>> > > >>>> > >On Dec 1, 2007 6:00 PM, Jonathan Schwartz >>>> wrote: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Hi Folks, >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> I finally turned on the option in fx.php to receive emails >>>> if/when errors >>>> > >> occur in fx. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> It seems that I only get a single message that isn't very >>>> informative: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> The following error just occured: >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Message: FX: ExecuteQuery XML error: no element found at >>>> line 1 >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> How can I expand this? I know this one occured during >>>> development. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Thanks >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Jonathan -- >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Jonathan Schwartz >>>> > >> Exit 445 Group >>>> > >> jonathan@exit445.com >>>> > >> http://www.exit445.com >>>> > >> 415-381-1852 >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> FX.php_List mailing list >>>> > >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> > >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >_______________________________________________ >>>> > >FX.php_List mailing list >>>> > >FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> > >http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > Jonathan Schwartz >>>> > Exit 445 Group >>>> > jonathan@exit445.com >>>> > http://www.exit445.com >>>> > 415-381-1852 >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > FX.php_List mailing list >>>> > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jonathan Schwartz >>> Exit 445 Group >>> jonathan@exit445.com >>> http://www.exit445.com >>> 415-381-1852 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FX.php_List mailing list >>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > -- > Jonathan Schwartz > Exit 445 Group > jonathan@exit445.com > http://www.exit445.com > 415-381-1852 > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20071201/fe26ccca/attachment-0001.html From someone at gagayaya.com Sat Dec 1 15:58:12 2007 From: someone at gagayaya.com (Someone) Date: Sat Dec 1 08:22:48 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Re: IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: <20071201132733.4573F61FF3A@mail.iviking.org> References: <20071201132733.4573F61FF3A@mail.iviking.org> Message-ID: Hi guys, Thanks for your input. I should have said that I am a PHP FX developer but have never done IWP. I'm just exploring the possibility of IWP, assuming that the development time would be shorter than CWP. Joel the site will be for a small/limited set of know users but I getting the sense for everyone that I might run in to unexpected issues that need some work around (that I might spend hours figuring out). Just want the client to know what's out ,and their limitation and their cost. Thanks again Frank From bob at patin.com Sat Dec 1 17:48:39 2007 From: bob at patin.com (Bob Patin) Date: Sat Dec 1 10:13:14 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Re: IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: References: <20071201132733.4573F61FF3A@mail.iviking.org> Message-ID: Frank, I second those who have recommended you steer clear of IWP. Although it works in some in-house Intranet situations, you'll probably find it too slow and too clunky for use for most people. I host some IWP solutions for clients who seem to be okay with it, but the compromises they have to make, combined with the sluggish response time, make it a impossible for me to recommend to my clients. There are some issues with clients taking their time or pausing while in an IWP solution; FM servers are set to drop an IWP client after 5 minutes or so of inactivity, and this often causes clients to get dropped off before they finish a registration or other process. In fact, I just finished rewriting an IWP site in PHP, because too many survey participants were dropped in the middle of the survey process. Good luck with your project, Bob Patin Longterm Solutions bob@longtermsolutions.com 615-333-6858 http://www.longtermsolutions.com Member of FileMaker Business Alliance and FileMaker TechNet CONTACT US VIA INSTANT MESSAGING: AIM or iChat: longterm1954 Yahoo: longterm_solutions MSN: tech@longtermsolutions.com ICQ: 159333060 -------------------------- Contact us for FileMaker hosting for all versions of FileMaker PHP ? CDML ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting On Dec 1, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Someone wrote: > Hi guys, > Thanks for your input. > I should have said that I am a PHP FX developer but have never done > IWP. > I'm just exploring the possibility of IWP, assuming that the > development time would be shorter than CWP. > Joel the site will be for a small/limited set of know users but I > getting the sense for everyone > that I might run in to unexpected issues that need some work around > (that I might spend hours figuring out). > > Just want the client to know what's out ,and their limitation and > their cost. > > Thanks again > > Frank > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From fx at 9degrees.com Sun Dec 2 06:59:10 2007 From: fx at 9degrees.com (Michael Layne) Date: Sun Dec 2 06:59:26 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] IWP vs CWP In-Reply-To: <58E11410-AEEF-4691-AAC4-E68CEA038E39@earthlink.net> References: <20071130145638.588F961EBC5@mail.iviking.org> <7E87F06D-6D74-4043-9145-746C42E7C085@gagayaya.com> <58E11410-AEEF-4691-AAC4-E68CEA038E39@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8CC32AAA-DD63-4DC7-B68C-94B43115DF2F@9degrees.com> Frank, I am inline with most everyone else: I haven't touched IWP in years and cannot see doing so in the future. If you need something on the web in 10 minutes (ok, 1 hour maybe), you can use IWP to meet that quick and dirty requirement, but if you want to build a real web-based solution with FileMaker as the back-end, CWP is he answer. Best of luck, Michael On Dec 1, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Joel Shapiro wrote: > Hi Frank > > I agree w/ the others. > > My sense is that IWP is best suited for a small/limited set of know > users -- for whom you may have some say over their browser/OS as > well as an understanding/acceptance from the users that the 'site' > has limitations -- kind of like a FileMaker "thin client" that will > give a set of known users access to the datbase without them having > to have a license for FMP -- and possibly better performance for > over a WAN. > > I don't think IWP is suitable for a public site. > > -Joel > > > On Dec 1, 2007, at 10:17 AM, Someone wrote: > >> Hi, >> Just curious what people think about IWP? >> Is it faster to setup than CWP? >> Are there a lot of bugs? >> Do you prefer CWP? >> >> Looking into setting up a REP web application for my client. >> >> Thanks >> >> Frank >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From kfutter at sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au Sun Dec 2 14:41:21 2007 From: kfutter at sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au (Kevin Futter) Date: Sun Dec 2 14:41:19 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OT] Problem trying to use mount_afp w/ FileMaker Server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/12/07 10:01 AM, "Dale Bengston" wrote: > I can find no reference to AFP obsolescence on Apple's site. Rather, I > find many references to continued support and enhancements to AFP > speed, etc. Here's one on the Leopard OS X Server page: > > http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/filesharing.html > > AppleTalk died many years ago. Perhaps you have mixed up the two. > > Dale > Sorry to come in late, but I agree with you Dale; ggt is definitely confusing AppleTalk with AFP. The giveaway is his mention of broadcasting. AppleTalk is notorious for this, whereas to my knowledge AFP does nothing of the sort. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ##################################################################################### This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal ##################################################################################### This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. 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From ggt667 at gmail.com Sun Dec 2 15:01:06 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Sun Dec 2 15:01:11 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OT] Problem trying to use mount_afp w/ FileMaker Server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well... and you can also simply check what I am saying that you have at least 20% overhead on AFP compared to SMB and NFS ggt On Dec 2, 2007 10:41 PM, Kevin Futter wrote: > On 1/12/07 10:01 AM, "Dale Bengston" > wrote: > > > I can find no reference to AFP obsolescence on Apple's site. Rather, I > > find many references to continued support and enhancements to AFP > > speed, etc. Here's one on the Leopard OS X Server page: > > > > http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/filesharing.html > > > > AppleTalk died many years ago. Perhaps you have mixed up the two. > > > > Dale > > > > Sorry to come in late, but I agree with you Dale; ggt is definitely > confusing AppleTalk with AFP. The giveaway is his mention of broadcasting. > AppleTalk is notorious for this, whereas to my knowledge AFP does nothing of > the sort. > > -- > Kevin Futter > Webmaster, St. Bernard's College > http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ > > > > ##################################################################################### > This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared > by MailMarshal > ##################################################################################### > > This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. You must not disclose or use the information in this e-mail if you are not the intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail and all copies. The College does not guarantee that this e-mail is virus or error free. 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On Dec 2, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > Well... and you can also simply check what I am saying that you > have at least 20% overhead on AFP compared to SMB and NFS > > ggt > > On Dec 2, 2007 10:41 PM, Kevin Futter > wrote: >> On 1/12/07 10:01 AM, "Dale Bengston" > > >> wrote: >> >>> I can find no reference to AFP obsolescence on Apple's site. >>> Rather, I >>> find many references to continued support and enhancements to AFP >>> speed, etc. Here's one on the Leopard OS X Server page: >>> >>> http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/filesharing.html >>> >>> AppleTalk died many years ago. Perhaps you have mixed up the two. >>> >>> Dale >>> >> >> Sorry to come in late, but I agree with you Dale; ggt is definitely >> confusing AppleTalk with AFP. The giveaway is his mention of >> broadcasting. >> AppleTalk is notorious for this, whereas to my knowledge AFP does >> nothing of >> the sort. >> >> -- >> Kevin Futter >> Webmaster, St. Bernard's College >> http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ >> >> >> >> ##################################################################################### >> This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and >> cleared >> by MailMarshal >> ##################################################################################### >> >> This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. You must not >> disclose or use the information in this e-mail if you are not the >> intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error, >> please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail and all copies. >> The College does not guarantee that this e-mail is virus or error >> free. 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The content and opinions in this e-mail are not necessarily >> those of the College. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From ggt667 at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 00:10:02 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Mon Dec 3 00:10:09 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OT] Problem trying to use mount_afp w/ FileMaker Server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK, less competitive, but why use it for server tasks? It's a vast difference in the tools you should use for server tasks and for work station tasks... ggt On Dec 3, 2007 3:36 AM, Dale Bengston wrote: > This does not make AFP obsolete, however. > > > On Dec 2, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > > > Well... and you can also simply check what I am saying that you > > have at least 20% overhead on AFP compared to SMB and NFS > > > > ggt > > > > On Dec 2, 2007 10:41 PM, Kevin Futter > > wrote: > >> On 1/12/07 10:01 AM, "Dale Bengston" >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I can find no reference to AFP obsolescence on Apple's site. > >>> Rather, I > >>> find many references to continued support and enhancements to AFP > >>> speed, etc. Here's one on the Leopard OS X Server page: > >>> > >>> http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/filesharing.html > >>> > >>> AppleTalk died many years ago. Perhaps you have mixed up the two. > >>> > >>> Dale > >>> > >> > >> Sorry to come in late, but I agree with you Dale; ggt is definitely > >> confusing AppleTalk with AFP. The giveaway is his mention of > >> broadcasting. > >> AppleTalk is notorious for this, whereas to my knowledge AFP does > >> nothing of > >> the sort. > >> > >> -- > >> Kevin Futter > >> Webmaster, St. Bernard's College > >> http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ > >> > >> > >> > >> ##################################################################################### > >> This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and > >> cleared > >> by MailMarshal > >> ##################################################################################### > >> > >> This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. You must not > >> disclose or use the information in this e-mail if you are not the > >> intended recipient. 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The content and opinions in this e-mail are not necessarily > >> those of the College. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> FX.php_List mailing list > >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > FX.php_List mailing list > > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > From jschwartz at exit445.com Mon Dec 3 14:42:50 2007 From: jschwartz at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Mon Dec 3 14:44:41 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Slipping in and out of error 802 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What is going on!? Out of the blue, my log file is intermittently failing , producing error code 802. The file is running. I have it open in FMP using Remote. All the other files server, including one used by the same web solution are fine. I've tried re-writing the log file and also recreating the log file. Still the same. There is one twist. I am running all my php plus the log file on one server (Os x server) and pointing to another os x server for the FMP file proving the data for the web/php solution. Anything pop into anyone's mind? Not having a compete log file is making be feel like I'm flying blind. Thx Jonathan -- Jonathan Schwartz Exit 445 Group jonathan@exit445.com http://www.exit445.com 415-381-1852 From ggt667 at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 14:56:34 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Mon Dec 3 14:56:37 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Slipping in and out of error 802 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This error; 802 can occur if the the FMP connection is overloaded or the connection between the FMS and webserver is overloaded. ggt On Dec 3, 2007 10:42 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > What is going on!? > > Out of the blue, my log file is intermittently failing , producing > error code 802. > > The file is running. I have it open in FMP using Remote. > > All the other files server, including one used by the same web > solution are fine. > > I've tried re-writing the log file and also recreating the log file. > > Still the same. > > There is one twist. I am running all my php plus the log file on one > server (Os x server) and pointing to another os x server for the FMP > file proving the data for the web/php solution. > > Anything pop into anyone's mind? > > Not having a compete log file is making be feel like I'm flying blind. > > Thx > > Jonathan > -- > Jonathan Schwartz > Exit 445 Group > jonathan@exit445.com > http://www.exit445.com > 415-381-1852 > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > From ggt667 at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 14:57:39 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Mon Dec 3 14:57:42 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Slipping in and out of error 802 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I run a separate network for the servers without any broadcast such as AFP, complete set of Samba, or any other rendevouz/bonjour stuff in order to avoid 802 myself. ggt On Dec 3, 2007 10:56 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > This error; 802 can occur if the the FMP connection is overloaded or > the connection between the FMS and webserver is overloaded. > > ggt > > > On Dec 3, 2007 10:42 PM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > > What is going on!? > > > > Out of the blue, my log file is intermittently failing , producing > > error code 802. > > > > The file is running. I have it open in FMP using Remote. > > > > All the other files server, including one used by the same web > > solution are fine. > > > > I've tried re-writing the log file and also recreating the log file. > > > > Still the same. > > > > There is one twist. I am running all my php plus the log file on one > > server (Os x server) and pointing to another os x server for the FMP > > file proving the data for the web/php solution. > > > > Anything pop into anyone's mind? > > > > Not having a compete log file is making be feel like I'm flying blind. > > > > Thx > > > > Jonathan > > -- > > Jonathan Schwartz > > Exit 445 Group > > jonathan@exit445.com > > http://www.exit445.com > > 415-381-1852 > > _______________________________________________ > > FX.php_List mailing list > > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > From jschwartz at exit445.com Mon Dec 3 17:50:28 2007 From: jschwartz at exit445.com (Jonathan Schwartz) Date: Mon Dec 3 17:54:36 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Slipping in and out of error 802 RESOLVED In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK. I just spent an ENTIRE DAY tracking down the source of this flaky problem. As mentioned earlier, I has installed a second machine to off-load the FMPSA from the web server. I had installed FMSA on the second (faster) machine a couple of weeks ago and was in the process of moving files over from one system to the other. I don't know what set things off, but somehow, the first FMSA machine started talking to the second FMSA machine and they agreed to wreack havoc. The machines are next to each other on the same subnet. If there has been a total shutdown, that would have been easy to find. However, the result was in intermittent 802 error on the original machines... the one that still housed the log file. When I looked into the config for machine 1 FMSA, it showed the web engine from machine 2. Ooops. To resolve, I went ahead and just moved all the FMP files from machine 1 to machine 2...and had the pleasure of having to go through each php solution and change the hard-coded IP address of the FX instances in all the files. Arghh. I just learned the benefits of using $serverIP in server_data without fail. Does anyone take it one step more, by having $serverIP point to a single definition somewhere? Hope this helps the next person. Jonathan -- Jonathan Schwartz Exit 445 Group jonathan@exit445.com http://www.exit445.com 415-381-1852 From ggt667 at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 00:18:38 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Tue Dec 4 00:18:43 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Slipping in and out of error 802 RESOLVED In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good, you describe a problem that could never happen in my place, I have $serverIPFM8SA and $serverIPFM7SA, as I still run the log files hosted on the $serverIPFM7SA ggt On Dec 4, 2007 1:50 AM, Jonathan Schwartz wrote: > OK. I just spent an ENTIRE DAY tracking down the source of this flaky problem. > > As mentioned earlier, I has installed a second machine to off-load > the FMPSA from the web server. I had installed FMSA on the second > (faster) machine a couple of weeks ago and was in the process of > moving files over from one system to the other. > > I don't know what set things off, but somehow, the first FMSA machine > started talking to the second FMSA machine and they agreed to wreack > havoc. The machines are next to each other on the same subnet. > > If there has been a total shutdown, that would have been easy to > find. However, the result was in intermittent 802 error on the > original machines... the one that still housed the log file. When I > looked into the config for machine 1 FMSA, it showed the web engine > from machine 2. Ooops. > > To resolve, I went ahead and just moved all the FMP files from > machine 1 to machine 2...and had the pleasure of having to go through > each php solution and change the hard-coded IP address of the FX > instances in all the files. Arghh. > > I just learned the benefits of using $serverIP in server_data without fail. > > Does anyone take it one step more, by having $serverIP point to a > single definition somewhere? > > Hope this helps the next person. > > Jonathan > -- > Jonathan Schwartz > Exit 445 Group > jonathan@exit445.com > http://www.exit445.com > 415-381-1852 > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > From dbengston at preservationstudio.com Tue Dec 4 11:14:32 2007 From: dbengston at preservationstudio.com (Dale Bengston) Date: Tue Dec 4 11:14:47 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Re: [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation Message-ID: Troy, This just showed up on the FMExperts list. -Dale ============ does anybody have he same problems? Leopard, FM 9.02, Swiss German System: - Wrong window in front after appliacation-switch (i.e. screensaver came in, switch to the finder, etc.) - keyboard focus on scripts- window instead of FileMaker-window when both windows are visible (and vice versa - first click in scripteditor window won't let you type something in...) If You click on the finder-icon in the dock (or 'mail'), then click on the FileMaker-icon in the dock to switch back to FileMaker, the starter-window of the FileMaker-solution will be on top - when closing the scripts window, focus is on another table/window as before (starter-window, I believe) - after loading a second solution (i.e. cross-check...), focus will be on the start-window of 'cross-check' whenever one of the above actions happen From dbengston at preservationstudio.com Tue Dec 4 11:24:34 2007 From: dbengston at preservationstudio.com (Dale Bengston) Date: Tue Dec 4 11:24:50 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OT] Problem trying to use mount_afp w/ FileMaker Server In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F7D83B3-1A7B-4407-B251-6B5306F26692@preservationstudio.com> Well, the only response I have for that is AFP historically has been a one-button activation. To turn on SMB or FTP in the Sharing preference pane takes a little more effort. And NFS is off the radar for most Mac users. Let's not lose track of the fact that Bob's AFP backup solution was working very well until just recently... probably for a number of years. So it's hard to argue with getting that kind of uptime out of clicking a single checkbox. Dale On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:10 AM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > OK, less competitive, but why use it for server tasks? > It's a vast difference in the tools you should use for server tasks > and for work station tasks... > > ggt > > On Dec 3, 2007 3:36 AM, Dale Bengston > wrote: >> This does not make AFP obsolete, however. >> >> >> On Dec 2, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: >> >>> Well... and you can also simply check what I am saying that you >>> have at least 20% overhead on AFP compared to SMB and NFS >>> >>> ggt >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2007 10:41 PM, Kevin Futter >>> wrote: >>>> On 1/12/07 10:01 AM, "Dale Bengston" >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can find no reference to AFP obsolescence on Apple's site. >>>>> Rather, I >>>>> find many references to continued support and enhancements to AFP >>>>> speed, etc. Here's one on the Leopard OS X Server page: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/filesharing.html >>>>> >>>>> AppleTalk died many years ago. Perhaps you have mixed up the two. >>>>> >>>>> Dale >>>>> >>>> >>>> Sorry to come in late, but I agree with you Dale; ggt is definitely >>>> confusing AppleTalk with AFP. The giveaway is his mention of >>>> broadcasting. >>>> AppleTalk is notorious for this, whereas to my knowledge AFP does >>>> nothing of >>>> the sort. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kevin Futter >>>> Webmaster, St. Bernard's College >>>> http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ##################################################################################### >>>> This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and >>>> cleared >>>> by MailMarshal >>>> ##################################################################################### >>>> >>>> This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. You must not >>>> disclose or use the information in this e-mail if you are not the >>>> intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error, >>>> please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail and all copies. >>>> The College does not guarantee that this e-mail is virus or error >>>> free. The attached files are provided and may only be used on the >>>> basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss, damage >>>> or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the >>>> attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or >>>> not. The content and opinions in this e-mail are not necessarily >>>> those of the College. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FX.php_List mailing list >>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >> > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From bob at patin.com Tue Dec 4 11:28:30 2007 From: bob at patin.com (Bob Patin) Date: Tue Dec 4 11:28:32 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OT] Problem trying to use mount_afp w/ FileMaker Server In-Reply-To: <7F7D83B3-1A7B-4407-B251-6B5306F26692@preservationstudio.com> References: <7F7D83B3-1A7B-4407-B251-6B5306F26692@preservationstudio.com> Message-ID: <9AF2B09C-A701-4350-A6B3-F36649573F21@patin.com> I think I'm going to need to reinstall OS X, which means I have to wait until traffic dies down. I'm going to try that tonight and see if that solves the problem... Thanks for your help, Bob Patin Longterm Solutions bob@longtermsolutions.com 615-333-6858 http://www.longtermsolutions.com Member of FileMaker Business Alliance and FileMaker TechNet CONTACT US VIA INSTANT MESSAGING: AIM or iChat: longterm1954 Yahoo: longterm_solutions MSN: tech@longtermsolutions.com ICQ: 159333060 -------------------------- Contact us for FileMaker hosting for all versions of FileMaker PHP ? CDML ? Full email services ? Free DNS hosting ? Colocation ? Consulting On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Dale Bengston wrote: > Well, the only response I have for that is AFP historically has been > a one-button activation. To turn on SMB or FTP in the Sharing > preference pane takes a little more effort. And NFS is off the radar > for most Mac users. > > Let's not lose track of the fact that Bob's AFP backup solution was > working very well until just recently... probably for a number of > years. So it's hard to argue with getting that kind of uptime out of > clicking a single checkbox. > > Dale > > On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:10 AM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: > >> OK, less competitive, but why use it for server tasks? >> It's a vast difference in the tools you should use for server tasks >> and for work station tasks... >> >> ggt >> >> On Dec 3, 2007 3:36 AM, Dale Bengston > > wrote: >>> This does not make AFP obsolete, however. >>> >>> >>> On Dec 2, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Gjermund Gusland Thorsen wrote: >>> >>>> Well... and you can also simply check what I am saying that you >>>> have at least 20% overhead on AFP compared to SMB and NFS >>>> >>>> ggt >>>> >>>> On Dec 2, 2007 10:41 PM, Kevin Futter >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 1/12/07 10:01 AM, "Dale Bengston" >>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I can find no reference to AFP obsolescence on Apple's site. >>>>>> Rather, I >>>>>> find many references to continued support and enhancements to AFP >>>>>> speed, etc. Here's one on the Leopard OS X Server page: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/features/filesharing.html >>>>>> >>>>>> AppleTalk died many years ago. Perhaps you have mixed up the two. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dale >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry to come in late, but I agree with you Dale; ggt is >>>>> definitely >>>>> confusing AppleTalk with AFP. The giveaway is his mention of >>>>> broadcasting. >>>>> AppleTalk is notorious for this, whereas to my knowledge AFP does >>>>> nothing of >>>>> the sort. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kevin Futter >>>>> Webmaster, St. Bernard's College >>>>> http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ##################################################################################### >>>>> This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and >>>>> cleared >>>>> by MailMarshal >>>>> ##################################################################################### >>>>> >>>>> This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. You must not >>>>> disclose or use the information in this e-mail if you are not the >>>>> intended recipient. If you have received this e-mail in error, >>>>> please notify us immediately and delete the e-mail and all copies. >>>>> The College does not guarantee that this e-mail is virus or error >>>>> free. The attached files are provided and may only be used on the >>>>> basis that the user assumes all responsibility for any loss, >>>>> damage >>>>> or consequence resulting directly or indirectly from the use of >>>>> the >>>>> attached files, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or >>>>> not. The content and opinions in this e-mail are not necessarily >>>>> those of the College. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> FX.php_List mailing list >>>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FX.php_List mailing list >>> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >>> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From steve at bluecrocodile.co.nz Tue Dec 4 12:11:17 2007 From: steve at bluecrocodile.co.nz (Steve Winter) Date: Tue Dec 4 12:11:29 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server Message-ID: <7C577443FAB04D48A22C25E59117B737@matatirosolutions.co.uk> Hi all, I've been working on a solution over the last few weeks which will be used by schools for monitoring behaviour management within the school. It's based on an FMP database, and uses FX to deliver the content. It is anticipated that there will multiple schools using the system, with each school having their own copy of the 'base' database and the associated PHP files so that it's possible to do customisations on a school by school basis. all good so far. We would however like to have a completely web-based 'management' aspect of this, which would mean that a school would register, and at completion of registration (into a separate master database) PHP would set up the school folder with a default install of the system, copy the 'master' database, giving it an appropriate name, into the FMS databases folder. and it's there that I run into a substantial snag.! Everything is in place, except that the database isn't open on the server. Does anyone have any clever ideas about how I can tell FMS to open the new database.? I guess I could take the brute-force approach and use exec() commands to stop, then restart the FMS service, but that will clearly disrupt everyone else.!! I notice some of the FMP hosting providers offer a web-based interface which they say can be used to open and close dbs, anyone got any idea how they work.? Any thoughts.?? Thanks Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.iviking.org/pipermail/fx.php_list/attachments/20071204/75bed5e0/attachment.html From dan.cynosure at dbmscan.com Tue Dec 4 12:55:57 2007 From: dan.cynosure at dbmscan.com (DC) Date: Tue Dec 4 12:56:04 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server In-Reply-To: <7C577443FAB04D48A22C25E59117B737@matatirosolutions.co.uk> References: <7C577443FAB04D48A22C25E59117B737@matatirosolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <4755B0CD.8040903@dbmscan.com> run an FMP script that opens the db named via PHP and a GET or POST parameter? http://snurl.com/1umx4 dan Steve Winter had written: > Hi all, > > > > I?ve been working on a solution over the last few weeks which will be > used by schools for monitoring behaviour management within the school. > It?s based on an FMP database, and uses FX to deliver the content. It is > anticipated that there will multiple schools using the system, with each > school having their own copy of the ?base? database and the associated > PHP files so that it?s possible to do customisations on a school by > school basis? all good so far? > > > > We would however like to have a completely web-based ?management? aspect > of this, which would mean that a school would register, and at > completion of registration (into a separate master database) PHP would > set up the school folder with a default install of the system, copy the > ?master? database, giving it an appropriate name, into the FMS databases > folder? and it?s there that I run into a substantial snag?! Everything > is in place, *except* that the database isn?t open on the server? > > > > Does anyone have any clever ideas about how I can tell FMS to open the > new database?? I guess I could take the brute-force approach and use > exec() commands to stop, then restart the FMS service, but that will > clearly disrupt everyone else?!! I notice some of the FMP hosting > providers offer a web-based interface which they say can be used to open > and close dbs, anyone got any idea how they work?? > > > > Any thoughts??? > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From ggt667 at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 13:23:21 2007 From: ggt667 at gmail.com (Gjermund Gusland Thorsen) Date: Tue Dec 4 13:23:26 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OT] Problem trying to use mount_afp w/ FileMaker Server In-Reply-To: <7F7D83B3-1A7B-4407-B251-6B5306F26692@preservationstudio.com> References: <7F7D83B3-1A7B-4407-B251-6B5306F26692@preservationstudio.com> Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2007 7:24 PM, Dale Bengston wrote: > Well, the only response I have for that is AFP historically has been a > one-button activation. To turn on SMB or FTP in the Sharing preference > pane takes a little more effort. And NFS is off the radar for most Mac > users. ?!?What? It's the exact same mounting instructions for all 3 apart from it's protocol descriptor nfs, smb, afp From steve at bluecrocodile.co.nz Tue Dec 4 13:24:35 2007 From: steve at bluecrocodile.co.nz (Steve Winter) Date: Tue Dec 4 13:24:44 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server In-Reply-To: <4755B0CD.8040903@dbmscan.com> References: <7C577443FAB04D48A22C25E59117B737@matatirosolutions.co.uk> <4755B0CD.8040903@dbmscan.com> Message-ID: <63D46E6D6B6C49449E87FD031D322A25@matatirosolutions.co.uk> Hi Dan, Thanks for the thought, and the link to your PHP script... I must however be missing here something here... how will an FMP script open a database on an FMServer...?? or is this a function of the fact that the CWP server is now also the FMS...?? What script step would I use...?? I can see how a script in a database, running in an FMP client could be used to open another database which is hosted on the FMS, within the client, but what I want to do is open the database on FMS... maybe I didn't explain myself properly last time, or have missed the point of your post... ?? does the Open File script step perform the open function on the server, if called through the XML interface...?? Thanks Steve -----Original Message----- From: fx.php_list-bounces@mail.iviking.org [mailto:fx.php_list-bounces@mail.iviking.org] On Behalf Of DC Sent: 04 December 2007 19:56 To: FX.php Discussion List Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server run an FMP script that opens the db named via PHP and a GET or POST parameter? http://snurl.com/1umx4 dan Steve Winter had written: > Hi all, > > > > I've been working on a solution over the last few weeks which will be > used by schools for monitoring behaviour management within the school. > It's based on an FMP database, and uses FX to deliver the content. It is > anticipated that there will multiple schools using the system, with each > school having their own copy of the 'base' database and the associated > PHP files so that it's possible to do customisations on a school by > school basis. all good so far. > > > > We would however like to have a completely web-based 'management' aspect > of this, which would mean that a school would register, and at > completion of registration (into a separate master database) PHP would > set up the school folder with a default install of the system, copy the > 'master' database, giving it an appropriate name, into the FMS databases > folder. and it's there that I run into a substantial snag.! Everything > is in place, *except* that the database isn't open on the server. > > > > Does anyone have any clever ideas about how I can tell FMS to open the > new database.? I guess I could take the brute-force approach and use > exec() commands to stop, then restart the FMS service, but that will > clearly disrupt everyone else.!! I notice some of the FMP hosting > providers offer a web-based interface which they say can be used to open > and close dbs, anyone got any idea how they work.? > > > > Any thoughts.?? > > > > Thanks > > Steve > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list _______________________________________________ FX.php_List mailing list FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From dan.cynosure at dbmscan.com Tue Dec 4 13:33:23 2007 From: dan.cynosure at dbmscan.com (DC) Date: Tue Dec 4 13:33:28 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server In-Reply-To: <63D46E6D6B6C49449E87FD031D322A25@matatirosolutions.co.uk> References: <7C577443FAB04D48A22C25E59117B737@matatirosolutions.co.uk> <4755B0CD.8040903@dbmscan.com> <63D46E6D6B6C49449E87FD031D322A25@matatirosolutions.co.uk> Message-ID: <4755B993.9040902@dbmscan.com> right, i'm still in FMP6 land and i missed FMS v. FMP - in your post you use both TLAs and i skimmed it and assumed you were talking about the FMP client database which can run scripts. not sure if you can run scripts in FMS without going through a client. if it were up to me i would have designed the dbs so that they didn't require a service restart or FMS manipulation. you probably can't go back in time though... ;-) FWIW. it's my 2 cents. AFAIK. YMMV. dan Steve Winter had written: > Hi Dan, > > Thanks for the thought, and the link to your PHP script... > > I must however be missing here something here... how will an FMP script open > a database on an FMServer...?? or is this a function of the fact that the > CWP server is now also the FMS...?? What script step would I use...?? > > I can see how a script in a database, running in an FMP client could be used > to open another database which is hosted on the FMS, within the client, but > what I want to do is open the database on FMS... maybe I didn't explain > myself properly last time, or have missed the point of your post... ?? does > the Open File script step perform the open function on the server, if called > through the XML interface...?? > > Thanks > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fx.php_list-bounces@mail.iviking.org > [mailto:fx.php_list-bounces@mail.iviking.org] On Behalf Of DC > Sent: 04 December 2007 19:56 > To: FX.php Discussion List > Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server > > run an FMP script that opens the db named via PHP and a GET or POST > parameter? > > http://snurl.com/1umx4 > > dan > > Steve Winter had written: >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I've been working on a solution over the last few weeks which will be >> used by schools for monitoring behaviour management within the school. >> It's based on an FMP database, and uses FX to deliver the content. It is >> anticipated that there will multiple schools using the system, with each >> school having their own copy of the 'base' database and the associated >> PHP files so that it's possible to do customisations on a school by >> school basis. all good so far. >> >> >> >> We would however like to have a completely web-based 'management' aspect >> of this, which would mean that a school would register, and at >> completion of registration (into a separate master database) PHP would >> set up the school folder with a default install of the system, copy the >> 'master' database, giving it an appropriate name, into the FMS databases >> folder. and it's there that I run into a substantial snag.! Everything >> is in place, *except* that the database isn't open on the server. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have any clever ideas about how I can tell FMS to open the >> new database.? I guess I could take the brute-force approach and use >> exec() commands to stop, then restart the FMS service, but that will >> clearly disrupt everyone else.!! I notice some of the FMP hosting >> providers offer a web-based interface which they say can be used to open >> and close dbs, anyone got any idea how they work.? >> >> >> >> Any thoughts.?? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > From steve at bluecrocodile.co.nz Tue Dec 4 13:43:05 2007 From: steve at bluecrocodile.co.nz (Steve Winter) Date: Tue Dec 4 13:43:13 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server In-Reply-To: <4755B993.9040902@dbmscan.com> References: <7C577443FAB04D48A22C25E59117B737@matatirosolutions.co.uk> <4755B0CD.8040903@dbmscan.com><63D46E6D6B6C49449E87FD031D322A25@matatirosolutions.co.uk> <4755B993.9040902@dbmscan.com> Message-ID: <673D856BD07D4497A0FA297877963266@matatirosolutions.co.uk> lol love the TLA fest ;-) I'm not sure how I could have designed this any other way. Currently each school needs to have a separate database of their own, I guess I could have built one huge database, and then given each school an id within that db, and then added that ID to every search that I did on every table within the db, but given that this is already a pretty complex system anyway (and based on an existing FMP solution) and we're talking about thousands of records per school, I didn't want to go down that line... Maybe I should have, but I think there would have been serious performance issues, but as you say, too late now... I guess what I'm trying to do is a little different from the norm, in that I want to web-connect to the FM server service, rather than a database running on it... ho hum... Any other ideas out there...?? Thanks Steve -----Original Message----- From: fx.php_list-bounces@mail.iviking.org [mailto:fx.php_list-bounces@mail.iviking.org] On Behalf Of DC Sent: 04 December 2007 20:33 To: FX.php Discussion List Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server right, i'm still in FMP6 land and i missed FMS v. FMP - in your post you use both TLAs and i skimmed it and assumed you were talking about the FMP client database which can run scripts. not sure if you can run scripts in FMS without going through a client. if it were up to me i would have designed the dbs so that they didn't require a service restart or FMS manipulation. you probably can't go back in time though... ;-) FWIW. it's my 2 cents. AFAIK. YMMV. dan Steve Winter had written: > Hi Dan, > > Thanks for the thought, and the link to your PHP script... > > I must however be missing here something here... how will an FMP script open > a database on an FMServer...?? or is this a function of the fact that the > CWP server is now also the FMS...?? What script step would I use...?? > > I can see how a script in a database, running in an FMP client could be used > to open another database which is hosted on the FMS, within the client, but > what I want to do is open the database on FMS... maybe I didn't explain > myself properly last time, or have missed the point of your post... ?? does > the Open File script step perform the open function on the server, if called > through the XML interface...?? > > Thanks > Steve > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fx.php_list-bounces@mail.iviking.org > [mailto:fx.php_list-bounces@mail.iviking.org] On Behalf Of DC > Sent: 04 December 2007 19:56 > To: FX.php Discussion List > Subject: Re: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server > > run an FMP script that opens the db named via PHP and a GET or POST > parameter? > > http://snurl.com/1umx4 > > dan > > Steve Winter had written: >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> I've been working on a solution over the last few weeks which will be >> used by schools for monitoring behaviour management within the school. >> It's based on an FMP database, and uses FX to deliver the content. It is >> anticipated that there will multiple schools using the system, with each >> school having their own copy of the 'base' database and the associated >> PHP files so that it's possible to do customisations on a school by >> school basis. all good so far. >> >> >> >> We would however like to have a completely web-based 'management' aspect >> of this, which would mean that a school would register, and at >> completion of registration (into a separate master database) PHP would >> set up the school folder with a default install of the system, copy the >> 'master' database, giving it an appropriate name, into the FMS databases >> folder. and it's there that I run into a substantial snag.! Everything >> is in place, *except* that the database isn't open on the server. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have any clever ideas about how I can tell FMS to open the >> new database.? I guess I could take the brute-force approach and use >> exec() commands to stop, then restart the FMS service, but that will >> clearly disrupt everyone else.!! I notice some of the FMP hosting >> providers offer a web-based interface which they say can be used to open >> and close dbs, anyone got any idea how they work.? >> >> >> >> Any thoughts.?? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > _______________________________________________ FX.php_List mailing list FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From tcmeyers at troymeyers.com Tue Dec 4 13:47:44 2007 From: tcmeyers at troymeyers.com (Troy Meyers) Date: Tue Dec 4 13:47:50 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Re: [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation Message-ID: <7904611.2751196801264229.JavaMail.postmaster@troymeyers.com> Dale, thanks. Would you happen to have a link to look a this thread? I'm not finding it. This is much the same as the problem here. -Troy > Troy, > > This just showed up on the FMExperts list. > > -Dale From rogerkiwi at aol.com Tue Dec 4 13:50:32 2007 From: rogerkiwi at aol.com (Roger Moffat) Date: Tue Dec 4 13:51:10 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OFFish] opening a new file on server In-Reply-To: <4755B993.9040902@dbmscan.com> References: <7C577443FAB04D48A22C25E59117B737@matatirosolutions.co.uk> <4755B0CD.8040903@dbmscan.com> <63D46E6D6B6C49449E87FD031D322A25@matatirosolutions.co.uk> <4755B993.9040902@dbmscan.com> Message-ID: On Dec 4, 2007, at 3:33 PM, DC wrote: > not sure if you can run scripts in FMS without going through a client. I have a couple of databases that I converted from FileMaker Pro 6 Unlimited with CDML to using FileMaker Server Advanced 8 with BlackBelt, and both of them contain scripts that work on the Server to send out eMails and update some fields after a page creating or modifying a record has been submitted from a browser. Roger From jsfmp at earthlink.net Tue Dec 4 14:06:02 2007 From: jsfmp at earthlink.net (Joel Shapiro) Date: Tue Dec 4 14:06:11 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Re: [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation In-Reply-To: <7904611.2751196801264229.JavaMail.postmaster@troymeyers.com> References: <7904611.2751196801264229.JavaMail.postmaster@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: <786B7AD1-D48F-4F5D-AFAB-C0F6B58091C4@earthlink.net> Hi Troy People have reported similar problems (losing correct/expected window focus in Leopard) on FileMaker's TechNet &/or FBA lists. Some have guessed that it's connected to Spaces. I believe at least one person said this was a Leopard issue, not specific to FMP, and they'd seen it in at least one other app. -Joel On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Troy Meyers wrote: > Dale, thanks. Would you happen to have a link to look a this > thread? I'm not finding it. This is much the same as the problem here. > > -Troy > > >> Troy, >> >> This just showed up on the FMExperts list. >> >> -Dale > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From tcmeyers at troymeyers.com Tue Dec 4 14:24:05 2007 From: tcmeyers at troymeyers.com (Troy Meyers) Date: Tue Dec 4 14:24:10 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Re: [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation Message-ID: <4751287.3911196803445611.JavaMail.postmaster@troymeyers.com> Thanks, Joel. For what it's worth it also happens when a FileMaker dialog box (progress box, Replace dialog, or custom dialog, etc.) is dismissed as well, not just when leaving the app. -Troy > Hi Troy > > People have reported similar problems (losing correct/expected window > focus in Leopard) on FileMaker's TechNet &/or FBA lists. Some have > guessed that it's connected to Spaces. I believe at least one person > said this was a Leopard issue, not specific to FMP, and they'd seen it > in at least one other app. > > -Joel From erik at cayre.dk Tue Dec 4 14:26:06 2007 From: erik at cayre.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Erik_Andreas_Cayr=E9?=) Date: Tue Dec 4 14:26:11 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Re: [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation In-Reply-To: <786B7AD1-D48F-4F5D-AFAB-C0F6B58091C4@earthlink.net> References: <7904611.2751196801264229.JavaMail.postmaster@troymeyers.com> <786B7AD1-D48F-4F5D-AFAB-C0F6B58091C4@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I haven't experienced this myself, ...yet! Danish system... /eac Den 04/12/2007 kl. 22.06 skrev Joel Shapiro: > Hi Troy > > People have reported similar problems (losing correct/expected > window focus in Leopard) on FileMaker's TechNet &/or FBA lists. > Some have guessed that it's connected to Spaces. I believe at least > one person said this was a Leopard issue, not specific to FMP, and > they'd seen it in at least one other app. > > -Joel > > > On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:47 PM, Troy Meyers wrote: > >> Dale, thanks. Would you happen to have a link to look a this >> thread? I'm not finding it. This is much the same as the problem >> here. >> >> -Troy >> >> >>> Troy, >>> >>> This just showed up on the FMExperts list. >>> >>> -Dale >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FX.php_List mailing list >> FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org >> http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list --- Erik Andreas Cayr? Spangsbjerg M?llevej 169 6705 Esbjerg ? Privat Tel: 75150512 Mobil: 40161183 --- ?Interest can produce learning on a scale compared to fear as a nuclear explosion to a firecracker.? (kan ikke lige overs?ttes) --Stanley Kubrick ?Kun p....sure mennesker kan ?ndre verden. Innovation skabes ikke af 'markedsanalyse', men af folk, der er afsindigt irriterede over tingenes tilstand ? --Tom Peters ?Hvis du ikke kan forklare det simpelt, forst?r du det ikke godt nok.? -- Albert Einstein ?Hvis du ikke har tid til at g?re det rigtigt, hvorn?r vil du s? have tid til at lave det om?? -- John Wooden, basketball coach From dbengston at preservationstudio.com Tue Dec 4 14:35:00 2007 From: dbengston at preservationstudio.com (Dale Bengston) Date: Tue Dec 4 14:35:13 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] Re: [Off] Leopard and FMP 9.02 window activation In-Reply-To: <7904611.2751196801264229.JavaMail.postmaster@troymeyers.com> References: <7904611.2751196801264229.JavaMail.postmaster@troymeyers.com> Message-ID: Here it is: On Dec 4, 2007, at 2:47 PM, Troy Meyers wrote: > Dale, thanks. Would you happen to have a link to look a this thread? > I'm not finding it. This is much the same as the problem here. > > -Troy > > >> Troy, >> >> This just showed up on the FMExperts list. >> >> -Dale > > _______________________________________________ > FX.php_List mailing list > FX.php_List@mail.iviking.org > http://www.iviking.org/mailman/listinfo/fx.php_list From dbengston at preservationstudio.com Tue Dec 4 14:42:38 2007 From: dbengston at preservationstudio.com (Dale Bengston) Date: Tue Dec 4 14:42:48 2007 Subject: [FX.php List] [OT] Problem trying to use mount_afp w/ FileMaker Server In-Reply-To: References: <7F7D83B3-1A7B-4407-B251-6B5306F26692@preservationstudio.com> Message-ID: <3A207E2F-B40A-42D4-B54A-3A8F077B3